More notes from Diane, from a deer call 11/14/2008
We are now 0 for 2
I don't think this guy hit the deer where he says either. (the first track the hunter could not have been more wrong)
We only went (in the dark and light rain) because it sounded like a sure thing and was just 7 1/2 hours post shot, though it had been raining then steady and was said to be a monster deer.
Hunter said he shot the deer in the shoulder (missed the first shot hit it with the second)
However the deer went STRAIGHT up over some nasty rocks/boulders with no trouble and no blood sign.
The point of impact had some grey hair and ONE drop of blood. There was a small bone chip and light blood about 50 yards in (bone chips from shoulder exit wounds are typically at the shot site itself) for about 25 yards and then nothing until they did big circles and found a couple splotches and then a bloody bed 100 yards+/- from hit site along with what they claimed was a teeny hunk of lung (but based on the evidence we saw I'd bet it was fat and/or bone marrow) and no blood to speak of after the bed
Annie tracked fabulously from point of impact, up over the boulder etc straight up to where the 6 hunters had milled about at last blood. The area was so rucked up that instead of waiting for Annie to puzzle it out I had them take me to the bed.
She tracked off the bed great but this deer was NOT acting lung hit nor chest hit at all. NO blood on the bushes at all very very little on the ground and this deer went amazing places and up amazing inclines. He then waded/swam through a large pool and on the other side there was some blood on a hemlock but then no blood at all. The deer went in a large circle down hill then looped back uphill towards the bed area then another larger loop. He wanted to be on that high point of land. And he also kept going back to this pool. (Annie would have swum it if I'd let her- the guys did a light sweep of it and saw no floating deer. He did hesitate in one place that at first I thought he laid down but then decided he just stood still and Annie said there may have been some blood in the dirt there. probably the darn animal was watching the search!
After 2 1/2 hours of tracking, 2 falls by me resulting in a smashed knee and no sign of the deer, more blood nor that he ever bedded up again.
My husband and I think the deer acts like an elbow or leg hit MAYBE a brisket, the hunter thinks a square shoulder hit and we strongly doubt that
The hunters are going out again and I pray they find it but ya know what? I doubt it.
I KNOW we can do this. We have tested Annie with very very dilute and sparse blood and a crap for sign trail and she aced it each time. She is tracking the deer step for step according to the hunters (over trail they've already done) and working her heart out and does indeed find NEW undiscovered blood
I guess It's ME that's the discouraged one. Discouraged that we can't perform miracles
So I feel a bit better now.
In talking with two LONG time deer tracking people I have come to realize that what I have been seeing is typical. We are a last resort. Hunters always call us after mucking up the woods or making a crap shot that they thought at the time was perfect or something unexpected happens between shot and impact...
The average recovery ratio is 30% using a dog in these cases and far far lower when not using one (ie when the hunter looks with just human help)
So while I still want to be a miracle worker I guess I have to take what I get and KNOW my dog is still VERY good at her job (and it's a job she LOVES!)
Sunday, November 16, 2008
Wildlife recovery/bloodtracking plus a Shed Hunting entry
Here is my Wife's (Diane) notes about our first trip on a deer call
I thought some of you might find this interesting.
Annie (3 years old) and I just got our license to be a Wildlife Recovery Team (leashed blood tracking dog). This is following wounded deer, or moose for hunters.
Annie's mom, Bea, was my great tracking girl that we lost this past February to bone cancer.
This track proved to me that with a dog that has proper talent and motivation, old tracks are not quite as big of a deal to dogs as we humans like to think.
The below is from 11/9 and 11/10, 2008
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We got home this evening from doing a long list of errands and found a desperate voicemail from a guy that shot a deer and could not find it.
This is Annie's first call since she/we became licensed, though she is still actually in training
The man had called both myself and another licensed tracker in a near by town. The other guy had come out but the dog tracked just til blood was lost and could not get any further despite several restarts.
I told the hunter that Annie is still in training and that I made no guarantees, BUT we were willing to come out if he wanted us to. He most surely did!
We got out to the site and started tracking (not at site of the shot but several yards down the trail at a bloody spot) at about 7:45. TWELVE hours after the deer had been shot. Annie tracked very well to the end of blood and then spent several minutes casting about. She then locked on a track followed it, lost it, found it, lost it. This repeated for awhile and then she found more blood!
At this point we were farther by quite a lot than the other dog team. She found a teensy bit more blood a bit farther on and then lost the track again. Found it again and followed it to a mud puddle where she dug up some more blood and then we lost the track entirely.
We circled about and eventually a ways farther on Annie locked on a track and dragged me about 300 yards to the edge of a field.
It was late, Annie was pooped and so we came home and will go back out tomorrow and restart the track again
The man was quite impressed with Annie as was my husband, Rob. I was happy with her performance but sad we did not get the deer. A first track AND in the pitch dark though she did very well and worked her darn heart out! Annie NEVER quit
Went out again this am at 6:30 (almost 24 hours post shot) and got to see the point of impact. The shot and subsequent events were not exactly how initially described and we could tell the deer was likely not mortally wounded (appeared to be an above the spine shot which stuns them but is not fatal)
We restarted the track from the beginning and Annie tracked very very well and exactly as last night, but got lots farther. We followed the deer to where it crossed a road with no sign of stopping to lay down. We quit after 2 hours and feel confident that the deer will live to see many more days
Annie was upset at not finding the deer so we stopped at the taxidermists and got a hide for her and we will lay her a track later so she can "find" her deer
She did VERY VERY well and was an excellent ambassador for the breed (Rottweiler) and the hunter was grateful for her efforts, patting and hugging her in thanks for trying!
I thought some of you might find this interesting.
Annie (3 years old) and I just got our license to be a Wildlife Recovery Team (leashed blood tracking dog). This is following wounded deer, or moose for hunters.
Annie's mom, Bea, was my great tracking girl that we lost this past February to bone cancer.
This track proved to me that with a dog that has proper talent and motivation, old tracks are not quite as big of a deal to dogs as we humans like to think.
The below is from 11/9 and 11/10, 2008
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We got home this evening from doing a long list of errands and found a desperate voicemail from a guy that shot a deer and could not find it.
This is Annie's first call since she/we became licensed, though she is still actually in training
The man had called both myself and another licensed tracker in a near by town. The other guy had come out but the dog tracked just til blood was lost and could not get any further despite several restarts.
I told the hunter that Annie is still in training and that I made no guarantees, BUT we were willing to come out if he wanted us to. He most surely did!
We got out to the site and started tracking (not at site of the shot but several yards down the trail at a bloody spot) at about 7:45. TWELVE hours after the deer had been shot. Annie tracked very well to the end of blood and then spent several minutes casting about. She then locked on a track followed it, lost it, found it, lost it. This repeated for awhile and then she found more blood!
At this point we were farther by quite a lot than the other dog team. She found a teensy bit more blood a bit farther on and then lost the track again. Found it again and followed it to a mud puddle where she dug up some more blood and then we lost the track entirely.
We circled about and eventually a ways farther on Annie locked on a track and dragged me about 300 yards to the edge of a field.
It was late, Annie was pooped and so we came home and will go back out tomorrow and restart the track again
The man was quite impressed with Annie as was my husband, Rob. I was happy with her performance but sad we did not get the deer. A first track AND in the pitch dark though she did very well and worked her darn heart out! Annie NEVER quit
Went out again this am at 6:30 (almost 24 hours post shot) and got to see the point of impact. The shot and subsequent events were not exactly how initially described and we could tell the deer was likely not mortally wounded (appeared to be an above the spine shot which stuns them but is not fatal)
We restarted the track from the beginning and Annie tracked very very well and exactly as last night, but got lots farther. We followed the deer to where it crossed a road with no sign of stopping to lay down. We quit after 2 hours and feel confident that the deer will live to see many more days
Annie was upset at not finding the deer so we stopped at the taxidermists and got a hide for her and we will lay her a track later so she can "find" her deer
She did VERY VERY well and was an excellent ambassador for the breed (Rottweiler) and the hunter was grateful for her efforts, patting and hugging her in thanks for trying!
Shed hunting and more
Shed Finds 11/12/ and 11/13
Found a single moose shed 11/12
11/13 Rob found the match to the antler he found yesterday. Just 30 yards from the first. Rob had actually walked right by it and today when he went back a bear had come along and dug it up from the leaves and chomped the crap out of it.....
Here's a picture of the set.
Rob says he hates bear! LOL
Then a sad find
Rob found a MASSIVE (and really gross/smelly) buck (estimated weight was over 220 lbs, 8" from eye corner to tip of nose, 19 3/8" inside green spread) dead in the woods being fed on by Coyotes.
The condition of the surrounding terrain suggest that he was killed while fighting another buck! This is an old buck, about 7 years old.
Rob has a set of sheds from this buck from last year (The ones his brother found "shed hunting by tractor" shown on the little girl's head) and this was ONE of the specific bucks Rob was hunting for this year
Rob is very saddened
Here's a picture of the set.
Rob says he hates bear! LOL
Then a sad find
Rob found a MASSIVE (and really gross/smelly) buck (estimated weight was over 220 lbs, 8" from eye corner to tip of nose, 19 3/8" inside green spread) dead in the woods being fed on by Coyotes.
The condition of the surrounding terrain suggest that he was killed while fighting another buck! This is an old buck, about 7 years old.
Rob has a set of sheds from this buck from last year (The ones his brother found "shed hunting by tractor" shown on the little girl's head) and this was ONE of the specific bucks Rob was hunting for this year
Rob is very saddened
Wednesday, June 25, 2008
Moose hunt, House for sale and NHSHC get together
First off; I did NOT get selected in the NH Moose lottery. I know this is a big disappointment to my fans, as it is to me. HOWEVER, if any of you were chosen for units G, H or nearby I am offering my services- FREE OF ANY CHARGE- for guiding/scouting. Last year I assisted two different friends in scouting these areas I know so well and BOTH men shot very nice trophy bulls!
Next business: Our house is for sale. Reluctnatly, I must add. It is a great place for any hunter! Check it out at http://www.robrichardsonart.com/housesale.html and feel free to forward the page to anyone who might be interested Last: Once we get settled in our new home, wherever that may end up being, I want to plan our first NHSHC get together. Think about dates late summer/early fall that will or won't work for you so that when I announce the location you will be able to provide input
oh and on a NON hunting note. last week I caught a monster Northern pike! Longer than a yard stick and without a net I could not boat it even with the help of a kayaker! We were able to lay the stick on it and the teeth scared the heck out of the kayaker. No photos though because the wife had the camera! never fails!
Next business: Our house is for sale. Reluctnatly, I must add. It is a great place for any hunter! Check it out at http://www.robrichardsonart.com/housesale.html and feel free to forward the page to anyone who might be interested Last: Once we get settled in our new home, wherever that may end up being, I want to plan our first NHSHC get together. Think about dates late summer/early fall that will or won't work for you so that when I announce the location you will be able to provide input
oh and on a NON hunting note. last week I caught a monster Northern pike! Longer than a yard stick and without a net I could not boat it even with the help of a kayaker! We were able to lay the stick on it and the teeth scared the heck out of the kayaker. No photos though because the wife had the camera! never fails!
Thursday, June 12, 2008
Antler Hunting by Tractor!
So a few weeks ago my brother called me and said "I found the rest of your antlers". What the heck does that mean?
I asked him had he been out in the woods and he says "Nope. I found them the easy way". So I asked him how, because we all know there is no easy way. "On the tractor spreading fertilizer out in the oat field" He replied.
He had been cruizing along with the spreader in a 20 acre oat field, happened to look down and saw half an 8 point set. He jumped down off the John Deere and found the match about 10-15 feet away. He walked around a bit and found another antler! A big half of an 8 as well.
The next night I planned to go up and see those big eights. I could hardly wait all day to see them. All day I had visions of big antlers in my head, The Jordan Buck, The Breen Buck, or even Klucky's new NH record were what I pictured.
When I got there I rushed in to the house and saw them lying on the bench next to the door. While they were not The Jordan Buck caliber, they were really nice big sets.
The one single antler is this season's version of a matched set I had already found (one 11/07 and one 5/6/08). This new one is a little bigger and has more mass than the winter 2006/07 set.
The matched set though... is from a buck that I have NO previous sheds from. The funny thing though; on my stereo there sits a rack from a buck my brother had shot in 1980, his first deer. IF this buck had not been killed in 1980 I would swear that this set in hand, was his newest headgear. Uncanny how a buck's genetics are carried on through a deer herd.
We went out into the oat field that night and looked to see if we could find the missing other half of the eight, or another antler of any size but no such luck.
We remembered that during the small thaw in January this oat field had melted to bare ground and figured that these two giants had came out to eat the exposed oat grass and maybe sparred over the eating rights causing the antlers to knock off.
So my advise is to remember to check out any food plots that deer may have been using in Januray and you may luck out!
As I write this, green up is complete and this makes shed hunting very hard until hunting season. I'd like to hit Pittsburg one more time. I've some back country spots I need to hit and I have one last area of the farm to check as well.
I need to put out some cameras and set up some small food plots and mineral licks to grow some bones for fall.
Remember, you can't look everywhere, just look where you are!
I asked him had he been out in the woods and he says "Nope. I found them the easy way". So I asked him how, because we all know there is no easy way. "On the tractor spreading fertilizer out in the oat field" He replied.
He had been cruizing along with the spreader in a 20 acre oat field, happened to look down and saw half an 8 point set. He jumped down off the John Deere and found the match about 10-15 feet away. He walked around a bit and found another antler! A big half of an 8 as well.
The next night I planned to go up and see those big eights. I could hardly wait all day to see them. All day I had visions of big antlers in my head, The Jordan Buck, The Breen Buck, or even Klucky's new NH record were what I pictured.
When I got there I rushed in to the house and saw them lying on the bench next to the door. While they were not The Jordan Buck caliber, they were really nice big sets.
The one single antler is this season's version of a matched set I had already found (one 11/07 and one 5/6/08). This new one is a little bigger and has more mass than the winter 2006/07 set.
The matched set though... is from a buck that I have NO previous sheds from. The funny thing though; on my stereo there sits a rack from a buck my brother had shot in 1980, his first deer. IF this buck had not been killed in 1980 I would swear that this set in hand, was his newest headgear. Uncanny how a buck's genetics are carried on through a deer herd.
We went out into the oat field that night and looked to see if we could find the missing other half of the eight, or another antler of any size but no such luck.
We remembered that during the small thaw in January this oat field had melted to bare ground and figured that these two giants had came out to eat the exposed oat grass and maybe sparred over the eating rights causing the antlers to knock off.
So my advise is to remember to check out any food plots that deer may have been using in Januray and you may luck out!
As I write this, green up is complete and this makes shed hunting very hard until hunting season. I'd like to hit Pittsburg one more time. I've some back country spots I need to hit and I have one last area of the farm to check as well.
I need to put out some cameras and set up some small food plots and mineral licks to grow some bones for fall.
Remember, you can't look everywhere, just look where you are!
Monday, May 12, 2008
The last vacation day
Today I used a vacation day, the last one, to make my way to Pittsburg, NH
Yes, that fabled land where moose and deer frolic in the vast woods of the far North.
A place where it has been said that antlers are littering the forest floor. OK, I am being a little too flowery; it actually went a little more like this.
Despite my best efforts, I left late. OK, so I wanted to leave at 4 AM and actually left at quarter to seven... I got to Pittsburg at about 10 am. Oh well. I had chosen to search one of four areas that I have had luck in before. One spot in particular is a gold mine, but Perry Stream Logging Company had not yet unlocked all of the roads. So I was now down to two spots, so I chose the easiest one first, not always the best idea because everyone else will go there too. Not much I could do about that.
I started into this spot that is a series of small clear cuts with a swamp and TONS of sign, both deer and moose. The deer sign is promising for two reasons. In the past I have always found a lot of moose tracks, beds, rubs and chews but not much actual deer sign. Now though there were lots more deer tracks, rubs etc than ever before. I had hunted this spot before, about 7 years ago for deer, but have returned since then to look for head gear with not a whole lot of luck.
I started off moving down hill weaving back and forth slowly. When you see a spot like this you can envision big moose palms just jutting out everywhere. But after the first two hours, nada!
Three hours go by and I see three big deer, trotting in deer fashion across one of the clear cuts. The last one was practically a cow, just a huge body. But I digress.
I start down this trail that I had sort of come in on. I was feeling a little worn out because I had not slept well and I was getting hungry, when I come across this moose femur. I stared at this bone and thought "This bone was not here when I came through before... BUT, maybe there is what is left of a bull with antlers still on the skull." A moose skull with antlers is the Holy Grail of shed hunting. So I push through some spruce boughs and straight in front of the leg bone is a nice big moose shed! A real nice fresh one. No chewing on it at all. As it was a pretty good size, I look around through my binoculars and POOF! another antler! But this one looks like a giant deer antler. Shaped a lot like "Hole in the horn" But when I walk up to it I saw that it was another fresh moose antler with an obvious deformity/ injury to the base area. This deformed the antler into a paddled club with points. Oh well, a set is a set.
I hike out with them attached to my pack like a proud Papa. I stop at the truck to stow them and get a bite to eat and drink seeing it was warm. I decided to go to another spot. I headed North towards the 3rd Connecticut Lake where there is a spot that I have always seen big bulls. This place is outside of the ever popular "Moose Alley" but is pretty good for bull sightings. To my surprise and delight, there's a big guy standing there almost as if on cue! He runs off into the woods and I carefully follow. He was an absolute huge bull. Definaitely a mature fellow. My mind says big bull, big antlers so in I go. I walk about 200 yards and I can see him moving at a steady pace up the ridge. At least I don't have to worry about getting stomped into the mid! I look around for awhile and don't see much so I decide to try one more place.
Off I go towards Moose Pond and I park in the area next to the pond and walk around the gate so I can work my way around the back just to give it a once over before sunset. Just before I get to the little dam, ahead of me is a small yearling cow moose. She seemed a little lost. She saw me and walked right over to me! She stopped about five or six FEET away and stretched out her neck to sniff me! If I had leaned in I could have touched her on the nose! But even though she was small, the fear of her kicking me was still a real danger if I spooked her. After about a minute she turned towards the pond, waded in and swam along the shore line. She was all alone, probably because this is just about calving time. This is when pregnant cow moose chase off the yearlings.
I went to the back of the pond and found a LOT of deer sign here too. The only problem for hunting season is that it is a marked safety zone.. No Hunting. Other than sign I found nothing else.
So I loaded up and headed back to Unity, but think I will try to return Sunday.
Yes, that fabled land where moose and deer frolic in the vast woods of the far North.
A place where it has been said that antlers are littering the forest floor. OK, I am being a little too flowery; it actually went a little more like this.
Despite my best efforts, I left late. OK, so I wanted to leave at 4 AM and actually left at quarter to seven... I got to Pittsburg at about 10 am. Oh well. I had chosen to search one of four areas that I have had luck in before. One spot in particular is a gold mine, but Perry Stream Logging Company had not yet unlocked all of the roads. So I was now down to two spots, so I chose the easiest one first, not always the best idea because everyone else will go there too. Not much I could do about that.
I started into this spot that is a series of small clear cuts with a swamp and TONS of sign, both deer and moose. The deer sign is promising for two reasons. In the past I have always found a lot of moose tracks, beds, rubs and chews but not much actual deer sign. Now though there were lots more deer tracks, rubs etc than ever before. I had hunted this spot before, about 7 years ago for deer, but have returned since then to look for head gear with not a whole lot of luck.
I started off moving down hill weaving back and forth slowly. When you see a spot like this you can envision big moose palms just jutting out everywhere. But after the first two hours, nada!
Three hours go by and I see three big deer, trotting in deer fashion across one of the clear cuts. The last one was practically a cow, just a huge body. But I digress.
I start down this trail that I had sort of come in on. I was feeling a little worn out because I had not slept well and I was getting hungry, when I come across this moose femur. I stared at this bone and thought "This bone was not here when I came through before... BUT, maybe there is what is left of a bull with antlers still on the skull." A moose skull with antlers is the Holy Grail of shed hunting. So I push through some spruce boughs and straight in front of the leg bone is a nice big moose shed! A real nice fresh one. No chewing on it at all. As it was a pretty good size, I look around through my binoculars and POOF! another antler! But this one looks like a giant deer antler. Shaped a lot like "Hole in the horn" But when I walk up to it I saw that it was another fresh moose antler with an obvious deformity/ injury to the base area. This deformed the antler into a paddled club with points. Oh well, a set is a set.
I hike out with them attached to my pack like a proud Papa. I stop at the truck to stow them and get a bite to eat and drink seeing it was warm. I decided to go to another spot. I headed North towards the 3rd Connecticut Lake where there is a spot that I have always seen big bulls. This place is outside of the ever popular "Moose Alley" but is pretty good for bull sightings. To my surprise and delight, there's a big guy standing there almost as if on cue! He runs off into the woods and I carefully follow. He was an absolute huge bull. Definaitely a mature fellow. My mind says big bull, big antlers so in I go. I walk about 200 yards and I can see him moving at a steady pace up the ridge. At least I don't have to worry about getting stomped into the mid! I look around for awhile and don't see much so I decide to try one more place.
Off I go towards Moose Pond and I park in the area next to the pond and walk around the gate so I can work my way around the back just to give it a once over before sunset. Just before I get to the little dam, ahead of me is a small yearling cow moose. She seemed a little lost. She saw me and walked right over to me! She stopped about five or six FEET away and stretched out her neck to sniff me! If I had leaned in I could have touched her on the nose! But even though she was small, the fear of her kicking me was still a real danger if I spooked her. After about a minute she turned towards the pond, waded in and swam along the shore line. She was all alone, probably because this is just about calving time. This is when pregnant cow moose chase off the yearlings.
I went to the back of the pond and found a LOT of deer sign here too. The only problem for hunting season is that it is a marked safety zone.. No Hunting. Other than sign I found nothing else.
So I loaded up and headed back to Unity, but think I will try to return Sunday.
Wednesday, May 7, 2008
Vacation report
Let me just start this by saying, Bears suck. Not only do they chew up antlers but they jump up and scare you!
Sunday I was following a rub line of one buck that I think is a Boone and Crockett class, when from under a blow down pops up a small boar Black Bear. He stood up on his hind legs and stared at me from only 10-15 yards away! The wind was in my face so he never scented me and the woods were wetso he only heard me at the last minute. We stood eye to eye for a few minutes and then I asked him quite loudly,"what do you want?" and he turned and bolted off. I could hear him snuffing and wuffing as he ran down the hill. I am sure glad it was not a sow withcubs! Such are the dangers of shed hunting...
Tuesday. Well what a day! Let me start by saying that I don't usually like sunny days for antler hunting because the bright sunlight creates bright spots and camouflages the tines sticking up, but sometimes knowing WHERE to look is the primary key.I started off by looking in an area that was logged out about 5 years ago. Lots of winter browse and HOLY COW tons of deer sign! It was mostly doe and fawn sign though.Let me say that I do not find many antlers in areas with tons of deer sign. But I grid searched the area any way because I have found smaller antlers in this area before. However, none today.
The sun was hot and I decided to check out some shaded hemlock groves up at the top of a place we call "the hump" I like this spot because there is a network of lightly used trails that funnel up to a mossy/rocky topped hump that is surrounded with hemlock and striped maple and some red oaks. The back side has a small shelf with some blowdowns that drop sharply into a big wooded valley with beech, oak and maple.
I was moving along the back and looked down to my right, between two huge downed hemlock trees and saw two huge tines sticking up, boy what an awesome sight! Thick G3s and G2s. I made my way down to it through all the junk lying on the ground, over logs and the like to grasp up a tank of an antler. I had only admired it for a second when I looked over 10 feet awayand saw more tines! I couldn't get there fast enough. The first thing I noticed is the bladed browtine on the second antler. This pair is the winter 2006/2007 set that matches the winter 2007/2008 antler I picked up last week!
This whole area is a big buck sanctuary and I only come up into it once a year. I don't mess around in here at all except to antler hunt and I amvery quiet and use scent control when I do venture in. So I want to get out of there as quickly as possible before I jump the big guy up. I checked out the top of the next ridge and move out along the bank sides along some other buck trails following a rub line. Rub lines mark buck only trails and are used year 'round until the rut when bucks switch to using doe paths or crisscross them to find hot does. I made my way up a brush choked drainage that tops out in another hemlock swamp. This swamp is where I tracked a bruiser last Thanksgiving and where I found a shed then.
I decided to back track to see if I could find the match. I had looked for it earlier this season to no avail.
So I get to the spot where I found the Thanksgiving antler and I stood looking for a minute trying to figure out direction. I had searched in another direction before and found zip. Doing my best CSI work I re enacted what that deer must have done and headed towards the opposite direction than my previous searches. I took TWO steps and ducked under a spruce branch and bam! there was the mate! It was in almost perfect shape only 3feet from where the first one had lain. I can't believe I missed it last Thanksgiving.I must have all but set my back pack on top of it!
Just goes to show that you should always look within a few feet of the first antler you find, especially if it's a large/weighty one.
I hope to get back during the rest of my vacation, to the other drainage to try to find the match of the antler I found last week. It has to be close given this deer's habit of dropping them together.
Hope everyone is having good luck finding antlers as well. Look forward to your stories
Sunday I was following a rub line of one buck that I think is a Boone and Crockett class, when from under a blow down pops up a small boar Black Bear. He stood up on his hind legs and stared at me from only 10-15 yards away! The wind was in my face so he never scented me and the woods were wetso he only heard me at the last minute. We stood eye to eye for a few minutes and then I asked him quite loudly,"what do you want?" and he turned and bolted off. I could hear him snuffing and wuffing as he ran down the hill. I am sure glad it was not a sow withcubs! Such are the dangers of shed hunting...
Tuesday. Well what a day! Let me start by saying that I don't usually like sunny days for antler hunting because the bright sunlight creates bright spots and camouflages the tines sticking up, but sometimes knowing WHERE to look is the primary key.I started off by looking in an area that was logged out about 5 years ago. Lots of winter browse and HOLY COW tons of deer sign! It was mostly doe and fawn sign though.Let me say that I do not find many antlers in areas with tons of deer sign. But I grid searched the area any way because I have found smaller antlers in this area before. However, none today.
The sun was hot and I decided to check out some shaded hemlock groves up at the top of a place we call "the hump" I like this spot because there is a network of lightly used trails that funnel up to a mossy/rocky topped hump that is surrounded with hemlock and striped maple and some red oaks. The back side has a small shelf with some blowdowns that drop sharply into a big wooded valley with beech, oak and maple.
I was moving along the back and looked down to my right, between two huge downed hemlock trees and saw two huge tines sticking up, boy what an awesome sight! Thick G3s and G2s. I made my way down to it through all the junk lying on the ground, over logs and the like to grasp up a tank of an antler. I had only admired it for a second when I looked over 10 feet awayand saw more tines! I couldn't get there fast enough. The first thing I noticed is the bladed browtine on the second antler. This pair is the winter 2006/2007 set that matches the winter 2007/2008 antler I picked up last week!
This whole area is a big buck sanctuary and I only come up into it once a year. I don't mess around in here at all except to antler hunt and I amvery quiet and use scent control when I do venture in. So I want to get out of there as quickly as possible before I jump the big guy up. I checked out the top of the next ridge and move out along the bank sides along some other buck trails following a rub line. Rub lines mark buck only trails and are used year 'round until the rut when bucks switch to using doe paths or crisscross them to find hot does. I made my way up a brush choked drainage that tops out in another hemlock swamp. This swamp is where I tracked a bruiser last Thanksgiving and where I found a shed then.
I decided to back track to see if I could find the match. I had looked for it earlier this season to no avail.
So I get to the spot where I found the Thanksgiving antler and I stood looking for a minute trying to figure out direction. I had searched in another direction before and found zip. Doing my best CSI work I re enacted what that deer must have done and headed towards the opposite direction than my previous searches. I took TWO steps and ducked under a spruce branch and bam! there was the mate! It was in almost perfect shape only 3feet from where the first one had lain. I can't believe I missed it last Thanksgiving.I must have all but set my back pack on top of it!
Just goes to show that you should always look within a few feet of the first antler you find, especially if it's a large/weighty one.
I hope to get back during the rest of my vacation, to the other drainage to try to find the match of the antler I found last week. It has to be close given this deer's habit of dropping them together.
Hope everyone is having good luck finding antlers as well. Look forward to your stories
Thursday, May 1, 2008
Another shed hunt
I went back to the farm woodlot for another hunt.
Using my topo map I found 2 drainages that I wanted to search for antlers. This was an area
unfamiliar to me so I will likely have to go through it again.
On one of the logging trails that I do know, I stopped to think about a
buck I tracked through this area 2 years ago and happened to look to my
right and there lying in the moss under some hemlocks was a stout little
forkhorn antler. very good mass for a first year buck but short in the tine.
I proceeded to get into the ravine and was impressed with the layout. 2
small brooks run through it and converge with a high spot in between. This
area is shaded heavily with hemlocks and there was LOTS of sign. No antlers
that I found but I am sure that they are there and I just need to look
again. I had been seeing a lot of moose tracks from what I believe to be a
fairly large bull.
I worked my way back to the drainage area close to the lake that I am
familir with and work my way up. It was getting later in the day and I was
tiring but I still held out hope that I'd find something else. I was
following a winter deer trail and almost tripped over the base of a moose
antler under a spruce sapling. I instantly recognized it as the winter
2006/2007 antler from the same bull I found the fresh set from earlier this
year. Knowing this bull, I had confidence that the other antler would not
be far away. I made a big circle through beech and maple bordering the
hemlock swamp near the brook. Just when I had almost given up hope I spied
the mate in a hollow along the brook.
Both antlers show signs of fighting with another bull and there are holes
punched through both.
This of course means now I need to find the other bull's antlers.
I'm on vacation next week, so hopefully more to come
Using my topo map I found 2 drainages that I wanted to search for antlers. This was an area
unfamiliar to me so I will likely have to go through it again.
On one of the logging trails that I do know, I stopped to think about a
buck I tracked through this area 2 years ago and happened to look to my
right and there lying in the moss under some hemlocks was a stout little
forkhorn antler. very good mass for a first year buck but short in the tine.
I proceeded to get into the ravine and was impressed with the layout. 2
small brooks run through it and converge with a high spot in between. This
area is shaded heavily with hemlocks and there was LOTS of sign. No antlers
that I found but I am sure that they are there and I just need to look
again. I had been seeing a lot of moose tracks from what I believe to be a
fairly large bull.
I worked my way back to the drainage area close to the lake that I am
familir with and work my way up. It was getting later in the day and I was
tiring but I still held out hope that I'd find something else. I was
following a winter deer trail and almost tripped over the base of a moose
antler under a spruce sapling. I instantly recognized it as the winter
2006/2007 antler from the same bull I found the fresh set from earlier this
year. Knowing this bull, I had confidence that the other antler would not
be far away. I made a big circle through beech and maple bordering the
hemlock swamp near the brook. Just when I had almost given up hope I spied
the mate in a hollow along the brook.
Both antlers show signs of fighting with another bull and there are holes
punched through both.
This of course means now I need to find the other bull's antlers.
I'm on vacation next week, so hopefully more to come
Tuesday, April 29, 2008
A long shed hunt update
I am sorry for not writing sooner, but I have been dead tired at night.
Well, as we all know it has been one of the snowiest winters on record andthis means BAD news for our Whitetail herd. Those deer whom were not getting supplemental feed in our wild areas had it really bad.
As I write this it is April 28th and in the Lake Sunapee area there is still snow deep enough for snowshoes in some areas of dark woods! The fields are open though and that is good.In the last few weeks I have taken a few excursions out into the woods sohere is the low down.
March 12- I took time to follow some deer trails on my hunting grounds. The snow was waist deep and following the pellet laden trails through theHemlocks was a snowshoe affair. I found 2 dead does that apparently starvedto death as there was only evidence of Ravens picking the carcasses. NO antlers
April 2nd - I was checking out another section of my hunting area and came across a definite Coyote kill. parts strewn everywhere. Not much left but the head, vertebrae, 1 front leg, 1 rear leg and lots of hair. It was a doe fawn
April 14th - We searched a 5 mile section of hemlock swamp that follows the highway. More deer sign than I have ever seen. Found two dead does real quick in a small deer yard. One mature and one a fawn. Went about a mile and found another dead doe, then yet another. This last one had a half eaten unborn fawn exposed through the doe's side. The infant was a buck fawn. Rob, my friend, found a nice right side antler that has 4 points. Looks like the buck got hit by a car and sent this antler flying out intothe pucker brush down along a swampy area. It was broken off at the base. Hope to get a photo of it for you.
Spent my next couple days off either out in the woods around home or up onthe farm woodlot and zilch, no antlers.On April 17th I had some inquisitive does literally follow me around the woods. Must have been yearlings without adults.
April 27th - I found an antler, FINALLY. It's a big one. Found it in a drainage between two big fields. The drainage leads downhill slightly intoa Hemlock swamp that follows a stream all the way down to a lake. Big four point shed, lots of mass and a bladed browtine. Looks a lot like "theDragon" sheds but a little different too. I also found a yearling Bull Moose "fork" antler and another dead doe!
Well, that's it for now. Going out Thursday at the farm and I'm on vacation next week!Remember Turkey season opens Saturday. Great opportunity to find antlerswhile whacking a big Tom.
Good luck and hope to hear of other's successful antler hunts
Well, as we all know it has been one of the snowiest winters on record andthis means BAD news for our Whitetail herd. Those deer whom were not getting supplemental feed in our wild areas had it really bad.
As I write this it is April 28th and in the Lake Sunapee area there is still snow deep enough for snowshoes in some areas of dark woods! The fields are open though and that is good.In the last few weeks I have taken a few excursions out into the woods sohere is the low down.
March 12- I took time to follow some deer trails on my hunting grounds. The snow was waist deep and following the pellet laden trails through theHemlocks was a snowshoe affair. I found 2 dead does that apparently starvedto death as there was only evidence of Ravens picking the carcasses. NO antlers
April 2nd - I was checking out another section of my hunting area and came across a definite Coyote kill. parts strewn everywhere. Not much left but the head, vertebrae, 1 front leg, 1 rear leg and lots of hair. It was a doe fawn
April 14th - We searched a 5 mile section of hemlock swamp that follows the highway. More deer sign than I have ever seen. Found two dead does real quick in a small deer yard. One mature and one a fawn. Went about a mile and found another dead doe, then yet another. This last one had a half eaten unborn fawn exposed through the doe's side. The infant was a buck fawn. Rob, my friend, found a nice right side antler that has 4 points. Looks like the buck got hit by a car and sent this antler flying out intothe pucker brush down along a swampy area. It was broken off at the base. Hope to get a photo of it for you.
Spent my next couple days off either out in the woods around home or up onthe farm woodlot and zilch, no antlers.On April 17th I had some inquisitive does literally follow me around the woods. Must have been yearlings without adults.
April 27th - I found an antler, FINALLY. It's a big one. Found it in a drainage between two big fields. The drainage leads downhill slightly intoa Hemlock swamp that follows a stream all the way down to a lake. Big four point shed, lots of mass and a bladed browtine. Looks a lot like "theDragon" sheds but a little different too. I also found a yearling Bull Moose "fork" antler and another dead doe!
Well, that's it for now. Going out Thursday at the farm and I'm on vacation next week!Remember Turkey season opens Saturday. Great opportunity to find antlerswhile whacking a big Tom.
Good luck and hope to hear of other's successful antler hunts
Sunday, March 16, 2008
Sunday 3/16 expedition
I went out Sunday on a search with a close friend and NHSHC member Chris Holmes, of Penacook, NH. More or less and exploratory search in an area he hunts.
It was a fairly suburbanised area with a tremendous amount of sign.We did not come up with any antlers, but got a great overview for futuresearches.It is a place few of us are so blessed to hunt! Some places we hunt have one or two major drawing points. This one has everything in a microhabitat.On one side a active and heavily used bedding area with TONS of hemlock ona side hill with many ravines and rolling knolls for the deer to bed on. On another side a swampy area bordered by white oaks slowly sloping upwards to two or three fields surrounded by select cut roads and tons of browse witha clear cut up top. Lots of thick cover for sancturaries.
We will hit this area again after the snow receeds. Another testament to this area is the numbers of deer Chris has taken there.
After all was said and done we covered close to 5 miles. Chris, myself and his Bloodhound Beauford were tired and hungry. Luckily Chris had invited me to a traditional Irish meal of corned beef and cabbage and lots more delicious treats that his lovely wife had prepared. Great food, greatcompany and lots of laughs with Chris and his family and guests. I amblessed to have such friends and am grateful for their hospitality. Better luck next time with the shed hunting, but it seems that they are starting to drop in earnest now so I shall be trying to post at least oncea week after each trip and it should get interesting.Good luck to all and may the tines show up light lightning from a starry night
It was a fairly suburbanised area with a tremendous amount of sign.We did not come up with any antlers, but got a great overview for futuresearches.It is a place few of us are so blessed to hunt! Some places we hunt have one or two major drawing points. This one has everything in a microhabitat.On one side a active and heavily used bedding area with TONS of hemlock ona side hill with many ravines and rolling knolls for the deer to bed on. On another side a swampy area bordered by white oaks slowly sloping upwards to two or three fields surrounded by select cut roads and tons of browse witha clear cut up top. Lots of thick cover for sancturaries.
We will hit this area again after the snow receeds. Another testament to this area is the numbers of deer Chris has taken there.
After all was said and done we covered close to 5 miles. Chris, myself and his Bloodhound Beauford were tired and hungry. Luckily Chris had invited me to a traditional Irish meal of corned beef and cabbage and lots more delicious treats that his lovely wife had prepared. Great food, greatcompany and lots of laughs with Chris and his family and guests. I amblessed to have such friends and am grateful for their hospitality. Better luck next time with the shed hunting, but it seems that they are starting to drop in earnest now so I shall be trying to post at least oncea week after each trip and it should get interesting.Good luck to all and may the tines show up light lightning from a starry night
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
Finds of the week
On Sunday- 3/9 I found a single shed on the woods adjoining our property.
Today-3/12 I went hiking on the private farm I sometimes hunt and covered a LOT of ground. The snow pack here is still incredibly deep with a thick crust in most areas. I found three dead deer, in different areas. It's a really tough winter for them.
March is the hardest month for them. I hate rain when it still can freeze but now I wish we'd get several days of WARM rain so the poor things can get to grass and such on the ground again before they starve
Today-3/12 I went hiking on the private farm I sometimes hunt and covered a LOT of ground. The snow pack here is still incredibly deep with a thick crust in most areas. I found three dead deer, in different areas. It's a really tough winter for them.
March is the hardest month for them. I hate rain when it still can freeze but now I wish we'd get several days of WARM rain so the poor things can get to grass and such on the ground again before they starve
Sunday, January 27, 2008
Antlers ON deer etc..
We had two bucks out here fighting a couple nights back. Antlers onboth. Not truly surprising since there were a couple does in heat about a week ago or so out here.
I went out today but found no antlers. I did however find an entire doe skeleton. VERY old doe. Her teethwere worn almost to the jaw. No coyotes had been at her just small stuff- fisher, ravens etc..
I went out today but found no antlers. I did however find an entire doe skeleton. VERY old doe. Her teethwere worn almost to the jaw. No coyotes had been at her just small stuff- fisher, ravens etc..
Sunday, January 20, 2008
Today's find
Say what you will about the harshness of winter, but I took advantage of today being Patriots playoff day and went out into the woods.
I was on more of a scouting trip to find rubs and scrapes from the fall to get an idea of what went on in an area I routinely hunt. This area has been a treasure chest for me during shed hunting season.
At a crisp 19 degrees F and minus 0 windchills, I was following a scrape line of calf sized trees when I noticed some moose tracks crossing my path.
I did not think much of it, until I looked over and saw two big tines sticking up out of the snow about 30 yards away. I went over and pried the antler out of the snow and it was a fairly nice moose antler.
I had a gut feeling that the other one had to be nearby. So I took off the backpack and stuck the hiking stick in the snow and started to follow the moose tracks. I followed it for about 25 yards and saw a fat tine sticking up out of the snow, I grabbed it and yanked it out of the snow and I had the match!
In closing, the moose antlers have dropped and most of the deer antlers as well so get out there and get some pictures!
I was on more of a scouting trip to find rubs and scrapes from the fall to get an idea of what went on in an area I routinely hunt. This area has been a treasure chest for me during shed hunting season.
At a crisp 19 degrees F and minus 0 windchills, I was following a scrape line of calf sized trees when I noticed some moose tracks crossing my path.
I did not think much of it, until I looked over and saw two big tines sticking up out of the snow about 30 yards away. I went over and pried the antler out of the snow and it was a fairly nice moose antler.
I had a gut feeling that the other one had to be nearby. So I took off the backpack and stuck the hiking stick in the snow and started to follow the moose tracks. I followed it for about 25 yards and saw a fat tine sticking up out of the snow, I grabbed it and yanked it out of the snow and I had the match!
In closing, the moose antlers have dropped and most of the deer antlers as well so get out there and get some pictures!
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